Thanks
Russ

moneybookers, they have a bad rap as a rip off

Go ahead and by it and then report back (I only heard good things about the software)

Hrefer is also supposedly the best scraper...

I've only read forum posts and reviews about xrumer, and none from anyone I actually know.

The reviews have been mixed. Hard to tell is it isn't that good, or that some people really don't know how to exploit it in the right way.

 wait from a paypal payment? 

its because of fraud paypal accounts (hijacked or with stolen credit cards )- its so sad that there is no honour amongst thieves nowadays anymore LOL

 wait from a paypal payment? 

Do you know this for a fact? Why dont all other merchants do this as well?

Do you know this for a fact? Why dont all other merchants do this as well?

russ 85% of what you are reading on boards is just plain wrong (based on my experience especially when it comes to seo...)and so might be this advice of mine
I just read this on a uk webmaster board where the poster said that he dumped paypal because of the high fees and high chargebacks

Over the past 12 months, we've had 2 CC chargebacks (88% of our turnover, remember) and 9 PayPal chargebacks (12% of our turnover)

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/133365-scrapebox-thousands-links-click-button-mass-blog-comment-rss-blogengine-support.html

HTH

Glenn

I can relate to Russ regarding the "trust issue" after I bought this linkwheelsoftware from Ankur which never properly worked

@Russ Have you looked into linkfarm evolution???? (they have a money back sort of thing)

I feel bad about LWS from Ankur because I recommended it at first. I tried to tell him to keep it simple and just keep it working, but he thought he had to add every suggestion that anyone made.

I'll try to replicate a lot of what LWS did using ubots.

Also, instead of Linkfarm Evo, consider Scrapebox and BookmarkingDemon and Blogbot and save some money and get more value.

Yes I also use linkfarm evolution, with that said You might want to go with what Kurt advised.
Dont get me wrong LFE works to some extent and is very fast but it is getting very low success rate when it comes to creating new blogs on wpmu, it seems to use a lot of server resource also.
as far as commenting on pligg sites I dont know what my results are, as I dont go to the sites as I hear they are easy to get trojans and such from

Kurt DONT!!!

Ankurs LW showed what is possible if you are lucky enough to find decent coders (especially if you compare this to weblinkrobot with their style of net/vb coding which works to some degree and is updated but lacks some kind of "elegance" and success rate is about 50%)

@russ - thanks for the feedback on LFE

I'm going to do some of this stuff with ubots.

I can do it now, but am trying to figure out how to "error proof" the bots so that if one site fails the bot will skip it and move on. And sites will constantly fail, as they are always changing. I actually made a forum post about this very issue on the ubot forum.

The other problem with BOTH weblinkrobot and liknkwheel software is that they use 3rd party captcha solutions...And these have been really undependable. They are basically services where you send the captcha images and someone, somewhere fills in the captchas for you.

They tend to work OK for a little while, then you get someone that doesn't read english letters very well, then the captchas fail, causing the entire script to fail.

I'll probably make some bots where you need to fill in captchas yourself, as it is really the only dependable way, as boring as it is.

I won't have any fancy "linking", and just use the bots to create accounts, etc.

I need to figure out how to combine Scrapebox results with ubots and we'll be in really good shape.

you can see that a lot of people are using every tool they can get their hands to - so IMO the real value of a small community like this one here (as already pointed out by other members) is to share ideas, come up with new strategies etc! just my 2 cents ...