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#0, FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Kurt on Apr-17-04 at 11:08 PM This is the Official Thread for all stuff relating to using FatBomb templates and skins. #1, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Poker on Apr-18-04 at 08:04 AM In response to message #0 LAST EDITED ON Apr-18-04 AT 10:20 AM (PST) ****Before you ATTEMPT to modify files you need to have knowledge of HTML, CSS and be familiar with some .cgi coding practices.* These are my recommendations based on coding for several years! First step before messing with skins or templates is. . . 1) Make sure Fatbomb works first! 2) Only work on ONE file at a time. There is a lot going here, so the less you mess with at one time the less likely you are to screw something up! 3) Rename your skins files by adding a "1" or "a" behind file name. This way you have a working backup copy ALREADY on your server. 4) Upload ANOTHER copy of the skins and templates to their respective folders. These will be the ones that you will customize. If something goes haywire then you can either revert to your renamed files or upload another copy and start from scratch. 5) Make sure newly uploaded files work. 6) Start customizing! SKINS--- default.html The skins/default.html is the one that will form the overall look and layout to your Fat page. Consider it the "bread" of a sandwich. Make changes to everything ABOVE: (% if errors %) and BELOW: (% if search.results %) (% include "default-results.html" %) (% end %) Do not mess with the above code unless you REALLY know what you are doing! Before you start "customizing" this file you should do one of two things: 1) Upload a copy of "style.css" in the TEMPLATES folder directly to your "skins" folder, and call it like so before the </head> tag: <style type="text/css">(% include "style.css" %)</style> OR: 2) Link to it in the <head> using this syntax: <style type="text/css">(% include "../templates/style.css" %)</style> The '(' and ')' should be replaced with square brackets. As I mentioned above, make small changes at a time! This will potentially save you a lot of time and/or having to pay Jeff or myself to "fix" it!!! To make FatBomb look and feel like your site simply take everything from your opening <html> tag to where your content starts and put that before (% if errors %) . Remember the link to the style sheet and also include any styles of your OWN in the "style.css". Then make your <title> tag look like so: <title>Results For (% form.keywords as html %)</title> The '(' and ')' should be replaced with square brackets. This will display Results For Keyword at the top of the users browser. Of course the "keyword" will be whatever they searched for. Then take everything below your body content and put that BELOW the last (% end %). PLease note that <!-- virtual include ---> WILL NOT WORK. If you have any virtual includes you will need to replace them with the actuall content. If this includes navigation make sure to use full urls (ht tp://www.yoursite.com/yourpage.html) as you are no longer in the "root" anymore. This should get you started! Next we will look at the "default-results.html." That is the "peanutbutter and jelly" to the page! Chris #2, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins - shopdcmetro Posted by kelvin brown on Apr-18-04 at 02:30 PM In response to message #1 I am not great with design or html, but I try to make my way around it. Anyway, if I can u can. In the last couple of hours that I have played with FB, you can see my results here. After Fatbomb http://www.shopdcmetro.com/cgi/metro/metro.cgi/ I included the spiderhub database I included some static searches on the left hand side. I dumped the contents of default.html into an existing template and then renamed it to default.html. Before Fatbomb http://www.shopdcmetro.com/ #3, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins - shopdcmetro Posted by bscrivener on Apr-18-04 at 05:48 PM In response to message #2 First, Let me say first that FATbomb should be called the AwesomeBomb. This is very cool. I'm working on my own skin and I want to use the total search time. I found the following tag which is perfect except that it has accuracy to 9 or 10 decimal places. LEFT_BRACKET % search.total_time % RIGHT_BRACKET Does anyone know how to round this number off to 3 or 4 decimal places? Thanks, Bo #4, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins - shopdcmetro Posted by jeffhope on Apr-18-04 at 06:09 PM In response to message #3 Bo, Fatbomb is using Perl module Time::HiRes . I'm not familiar with it really, but it may well have to be replaced or modified in the scripts where it's called if you don't want that many decimal places. Jeff #5, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins - shopdcmetro Posted by bscrivener on Apr-18-04 at 06:33 PM In response to message #4 >Fatbomb is using Perl module Time::HiRes . I'm not familiar >with it really, but it may well have to be replaced or >modified in the scripts where it's called if you don't want >that many decimal places. Yes - thanks Jeff. I found the file and hacked it to round off to hundredths of a second. Super cool stuff! Bo #6, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins - shopdcmetro Posted by Kurt on Apr-18-04 at 10:24 PM In response to message #5 LAST EDITED ON Apr-18-04 AT 10:54 PM (PST) Bo, Thanks for the comments... Kelvin, I'm not sure how well FatBomb works in a narrow table. If you use narrow tables, I suggest taking out the preview function... I normally use the two-table layout, one thin for navigation and one "thick" for content. But because of the preview feature, I went with one big f a t table, to give room for the preview, such as at www.lubz.com . If/when I want to add naviagation, I'll add links to the top and bottom. There's more than enough room to get 20 + 20 links top and bottom. Plus, don't forget that the ability to add your own links via custom databases add "targeted navigation" via the "search", as you can add links to your own site in the SER's, creating "navigation" based on keyword. Also, FatBomb adds "more" links at the bottom of every page, so if you can get an engine to spider a single page, it could spider up to 15 or more "more results" pages, as they all cross-link with each other. Let's do the math: 20 + 20 navigation links to other FatBomb SERPs = 40 total. Each of the 40 creates, let's say, 15 "more serps", that's 600 pages... And if you understand the "Magic Linking Strategy", you can easily multiply the 600 a couple of more times... However, the real key will be to linking to all these pages. #7, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins - shopdcmetro Posted by kelvin brown on Apr-19-04 at 06:27 AM In response to message #6 > > >Plus, don't forget that the ability to add your own links >via custom databases add "targeted navigation" via the >"search", as you can add links to your own site in the >SER's, creating "navigation" based on keyword. > >Also, FatBomb adds "more" links at the bottom of every page, >so if you can get an engine to spider a single page, it >could spider up to 15 or more "more results" pages, as they >all cross-link with each other. > >Let's do the math: > >20 + 20 navigation links to other FatBomb SERPs = 40 total. > >Each of the 40 creates, let's say, 15 "more serps", that's >600 pages... > >And if you understand the "Magic Linking Strategy", you can >easily multiply the 600 a couple of more times... > >However, the real key will be to linking to all these pages. Hi Kurt, Thanks for the feed back. I will be modifing the table for width. That was me seeing what I could do with an existing design. The site i am using is an existing directory, so I am using a custom database. Although only about 400 of my current listing have URLs. My traffic is currently 5k vistors, with an average of 10K page views per month. My goal here is to increase the page views and repeat visitors. over half my traffic comes from various search engines. This makes it hard to tell if I am getting repeat visitors. On this particular site www.shopdcmetro.com, you will notice I plan to have 30 SERPs to start with. I know my html pages are spidered every couple of days, how well will this links be scanned. http://www.shopdcmetro.com/cgi/metro/metro.cgi/?skin=washingtondc&keywords=legal&start=20&length Since I can run cgi from any location, I am considering putting everything back a couple of levels, to http://www.shopdcmetro.com/metro.cgi/ Previously, because it was automatic, I always allowed free entry into the database. Anyone here considered charging for basic entry. Any thoughts. Thanks Kelvin #8, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Rob Hawkins on Apr-20-04 at 08:40 PM In response to message #1 Hi Guys, It seems that the page navigation at the bottom of a Fatbomb page doesn't work -- ie: More: <1> <2> <3> <4> <5> <6> <7> <8> Next ť If you click on any of the pages, it just re-opens page 1 It would appear to be this piece of code from 'default-results.html': More: (% for page in search.pages %) (% if page.current %) <strong>((% page.number %))</strong> (% else %) <a href="./?skin=(% form.skin as url %)&keywords=(% form.keywords as url %)&start=(% page.start %)&length=(% page.length %)">(% if page.previous %)Ť Previous (% elif page.next %)Next ť(% else %)((% page.number %))(% end %)</a> (% end %) (% end %) (All round brackets are actually square brackets) Any ideas what is wrong and how to correct it? Rob #9, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Apr-20-04 at 08:44 PM In response to message #8 Hi Rob, Mine is working OK. If you want to post or email a URL I can check it out. Jeff jeff AT totalwebconsulting.com #10, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Rob Hawkins on Apr-20-04 at 10:14 PM In response to message #9 Hey Jeff, I just found a parallel post on another forum which answered this. it's the line: <a href="./?skin - should be: <a href="/cgi-bin/fatbomb.cgi/?skin (or whatever relevant path to FB) Thanks for offering to help (as usual ) Rob #11, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Graeme007 on Apr-23-04 at 09:20 PM In response to message #10 Which file do I change the affiliate code for Searchfeed #12, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Apr-23-04 at 09:45 PM In response to message #11 Graeme, Most importantly look in skins/default-results.html . But really you should use a text editor and replace it in every file where it occurs, not just the default. I'd do a search for 1925 (Kurt's ID) and replace it with your own. You can use Windows Explorer Search if you need it. I count 10 files total that need updating, all ending with an .html extension. The 1925 will occur as part of a searchfeed.com query string, and just to be safe, you may want to visually check each occurrence of 1925 before changing it. Jeff #13, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Graeme007 on Apr-24-04 at 05:29 AM In response to message #12 Thanks Jeff I used replacebomb - forgot I had it:-( #14, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Graeme007 on Apr-24-04 at 08:38 PM In response to message #13 I've hunted through the templates but I can't find where to get rid of the altavista news in the middle of the search results #15, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Apr-24-04 at 08:48 PM In response to message #14 Graeme, If you don't have the Altavista engine itself checked in your admin, I would imagine those results are being returned from one of the other engines that you do have selected. I don't know which engines feed which anymore, but that's my guess. In other words, maybe instead of engine --> final end URL you may be seeing engine --> AltaVista result fed to engine You might want to try the engines one at a time until you find out which one is creating those. That may be wrong, it's just a guess, as I haven't run into this before. Jeff #16, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Poker on Apr-25-04 at 07:02 AM In response to message #15 Graeme and All, Hello everyone I am back from the "flu dead." Everyone, when you first start off using FatBomb take the time to use the admin area first. Graeme, I too had that HUGE Altavista pheed dead smack in the middle of pages. I got rid of it by simply checking 'no' in the 'Enable:' box on the 'Engines Page.' You can also give it a weight of '0' too (which I also did) so your are assured that it will not come up on top or even the middle, as long as all the rest have weights higher than '0.' When you do any changes to the weight or enable of any engine make sure to press the 'UPDATE' button for that particular engine or 'UPDATE ALL' at the bottom of the page. This will make your changes go live and be recorded in the engines db file. Chris #17, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Graeme007 on May-04-04 at 01:46 AM In response to message #16 I copied a fatbomb from one site to another and made all the changes I thought necessary to get it working on site #2. It does work, but only after I get this message on the initial search... Cannot remove the file 'data/cache/aol-12532/boat.dat': Permission denied at lib/Gamma/Cache.pm line 48. If I hit the back button, and then search again, I get the results requested. As I have copied all the files across from site #1 is this problem caused by having the data/cache of the original sites search? If so - Do I need to go through and delete the cached files or am I missing some other line of code that needs changing? Thanks #18, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Kurt on May-05-04 at 01:51 AM In response to message #17 Graeme, It seems to me that you didn't also copy the cache files. You will either need to do a clean install or copy the cache files also. #19, RE: FatBomb Templates - results breaking out of tables Posted by kelvin brown on May-13-04 at 04:42 PM In response to message #18 LAST EDITED ON May-14-04 AT 10:31 PM (PST) by Poker (moderator) I seem to have a table design flaw. Every so ofter, I get some long crazy link that makes you have to scroll to the right to see the whole page. Is this a table problem? If so, anyone know how to correct it. Here is a example: Poconos haven. (Black-owned resort in Pennsylvania Poconos Mountains)...lines Route 209 in ... HighBeam Research, Free Preview: 'Poconos haven. (Black-owned resort in Pennsylvania Poconos Mountains)'... Full Membership required for unlimited access. Free 7-day trial. Comprehensive archive ... proclaiming endless Pocono...forming a black community in Pennsylvania 's resort countryside ... http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp? Removed by Poker Sources: alltheweb, Total Points: 101. example search page. the center column is set 440 but breaks on some long results. (table width="440" border="0" bordercolor="#000000") http://www.africanamericanbusinessdirectory.com/black-owned-Pennsylvania.shtml #20, RE: FatBomb Templates - results breaking out of tables Posted by bscrivener on May-14-04 at 06:47 PM In response to message #19 >I seem to have a table design flaw. Every so ofter, I get >some long crazy link that makes you have to scroll to the >right to see the whole page. > > >Is this a table problem? > >If so, anyone know how to correct it. > >Here is a example: > Kelvin, Unfortunately this is a common problem. Did you notice that the example you posted made the forum really wide now and created a scroll bar at the bottom. It is a common problem that affects HTML in general. Apparently, HTML can be split across multiple lines if there are certain characters (like dashes, spaces, and ? marks) but not others (underscores, plus signs, dots, etc). I don't really know of a way around this except for applications to be coded to truncate these long strings or for folks to start using characters in their URLs that enable splitting. I have started using dashes to separate words now instead of underscores. Sorry for not having a solution, Bo #21, Moderators Posted by kelvin brown on May-14-04 at 09:01 PM In response to message #20 please feel free to delete or edit post # 19 to set the forum back in its proper place. kelvin #22, RE: Moderators Posted by Poker on May-14-04 at 10:35 PM In response to message #21 Kelvin & BO, As far as I know there is no way around around this problem. This is the reason that I do not use "lookquick." I have tried everything. . .fixed width tables, absolute positioning, the works. Still, when that one screwy pheed comes up...BAM! Page layout goes to hell. Chris #23, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins - shopdcmetro Posted by kelvin brown on May-19-04 at 03:22 AM In response to message #6 Kurt, Great news. I have added about 120 shtml pages to one site, so far with about 380 to go. As I was checking google, I noticed that many pages wre spidered at least 4 SERPs deep and at least one up to 9 pages deep. After only about 3 weeks. kelvin >If/when I want to add naviagation, I'll add links to the top >and bottom. There's more than enough room to get 20 + 20 >links top and bottom. > >Plus, don't forget that the ability to add your own links >via custom databases add "targeted navigation" via the >"search", as you can add links to your own site in the >SER's, creating "navigation" based on keyword. > >Also, FatBomb adds "more" links at the bottom of every page, >so if you can get an engine to spider a single page, it >could spider up to 15 or more "more results" pages, as they >all cross-link with each other. > >Let's do the math: > >20 + 20 navigation links to other FatBomb SERPs = 40 total. > >Each of the 40 creates, let's say, 15 "more serps", that's >600 pages... > >And if you understand the "Magic Linking Strategy", you can >easily multiply the 600 a couple of more times... > >However, the real key will be to linking to all these pages. #24, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Isobel on May-19-04 at 05:17 PM In response to message #1 > >Before you start "customizing" this file you should do one >of two things: > >1) Upload a copy of "style.css" in the TEMPLATES folder >directly to your "skins" folder, and call it like so before >the </head> tag: > ><style type="text/css">(% include "style.css" %)</style> > >OR: > >2) Link to it in the <head> using this syntax: > ><style type="text/css">(% include "../templates/style.css" >%)</style> > >The '(' and ')' should be replaced with square >brackets. > I'd prefer to link to an external style sheet rather than including all the code in my pages. The usual "link href ...." doesn't seem to work (none of the style sheet is applied). Is there any way of doing this in FB? Thanks, Isobel #25, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Poker on May-19-04 at 06:00 PM In response to message #24 Isobel, You can't, as far as I know, link to a style sheet in FB. Using the "include function" just puts the code into the head of the page. Doesn't really add to or take away from the "page" either way. A few extra lines of code in the head will load even before the "waiting period" of the scraping. Chris #26, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Isobel on May-20-04 at 06:02 AM In response to message #25 Chris, I had a feeling you were going to say that I do have a lot of code in my style sheet, because I use the same template for several sites and change the look with different colours. My understanding is that that pushes my content further down the page as far as the SEs are concerned and that may have an effect on SERPs. My other concern is that I put a lot of notes in my style sheet, which I don't particularly want to be seen by someone reading my source code. Not a major problem - I can delete the notes! If FB can't read a linked style sheet, can it read a linked .js file, do you know? Thanks! Isobel #27, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by totenmaske on May-20-04 at 10:08 PM In response to message #26 I had no problem with linking to an external file sheet as long as I used an absolute reference <link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" href="http://www.gothseek.com/stylesheet.css";> ---------------------- Stanley aka Totenmaske Affiliate-Blog.com Cherry Bomb XML List GothSeek.com - the Gothic Search Engine - Powered by FatBomb! #28, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Isobel on May-21-04 at 09:41 AM In response to message #27 Stanley said: >I had no problem with linking to an external file sheet as >long as I used an absolute reference > > ><link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" >href="http://www.gothseek.com/stylesheet.css";> > > Stanley, THANK YOU!! I never even thought of trying that. Excellent! Isobel #29, Different default results for one installation Posted by Graeme007 on May-30-04 at 04:54 PM In response to message #28 I have one installation of FatBomb on a site but I want to have two different results pages. What part of the code do I change to be able to select different results pages? I need this because one set of results will have the header already on it, and another set of results will have no header because it will be included in a table of a page that already has the header. #30, RE: Different default results for one installation Posted by kelvin brown on May-30-04 at 05:20 PM In response to message #29 first make a copy of default-results.html rename it something like option1-results.html then in the skin, modify, <% include "default-results.html" %> <% end %> to use the new name, <% include "option1-results.html" %> <% end %> kelvin #31, RE: Different default results for one installation Posted by Graeme007 on May-30-04 at 05:23 AM In response to message #30 Sorry - still confused. If I am using something like this.... <!--#include virtual="/cgi-bin/Search/search.cgi/?keywords=Pink"--> In one page it will always show the default search result page that has my headers coded in. What 'include' will I put on a page where I don't want the default results to show? I thought I would need to create a second search.cgi like search2.cgi and use that in the include but when I look at the coding of search.cgi it doesn't look like there is anything to change. I have copied and made changes to default-results.htnl and also the default.html but there must be another file that I need to change to tell the search to use default2.html and default-results2.html Thanks #32, RE: Different default results for one installation Posted by tpierce3 on Jun-19-04 at 03:02 PM In response to message #31 Hi Graeme, He means if your want to point those results to a different skin to specify it in your SSI code with skin=? where ? = skin name For example <!--#include virtual="/cgi-bin/Search/search.cgi/?skin=mycustomskin&keywords=Pink"--> This applies to both dynamic links and SSI coded links. Hope this helps. ~Thomas >Sorry - still confused. > >If I am using something like this.... > ><!--#include >virtual="/cgi-bin/Search/search.cgi/?keywords=Pink"--> > >In one page it will always show the default search result >page that has my headers coded in. > >What 'include' will I put on a page where I don't want the >default results to show? > >I thought I would need to create a second search.cgi like >search2.cgi and use that in the include but when I look at >the coding of search.cgi it doesn't look like there is >anything to change. > >I have copied and made changes to default-results.htnl and >also the default.html but there must be another file that I >need to change to tell the search to use default2.html and >default-results2.html > >Thanks #33, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by tpierce3 on Jun-19-04 at 03:07 PM In response to message #12 Would that include the TrackingID also? ~Thomas >Graeme, > >Most importantly look in skins/default-results.html . > >But really you should use a text editor and replace it in >every file where it occurs, not just the default. I'd do a >search for 1925 (Kurt's ID) and replace it with your own. >You can use Windows Explorer Search if you need it. I count >10 files total that need updating, all ending with an .html >extension. > >The 1925 will occur as part of a searchfeed.com query >string, and just to be safe, you may want to visually check >each occurrence of 1925 before changing it. > >Jeff #34, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by ezrydn on Jun-19-04 at 03:22 PM In response to message #33 LAST EDITED ON Jun-19-04 AT 03:25 PM (PST) by jeffhope (moderator) The ten (10) files are listed here: http://www.dombom.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=538&forum=DCForumID9 Post #55 John Mod added: John, I'm not sure everyone can get to that location, so I've taken the liberty of adding that info to your post here. ============================================================ For those newcomers to SF (and new bombers), and have the new URL, you need to know there are changes that need to be made within Fatbomb to have your PPC links come up properly for credit. I ran into this the other night and have finally solved the mystery. You need to take Notepad and make two copies of your SF url, for 'cut & paste' operation. Mine are: http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/feed/XMLFeed.jsp?trackID=xxxxxxxxxxx&pID=xxxxx&cat=(% form.keywords as html %)&nl=5&page=1&ip=1.1.1.1&excID= NOTE: Instead of "(" and ")", use left and right brackets! http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/feed/XMLFeed.jsp?trackID=xxxxxxxxxxx&pID=xxxxx&cat=patriotic&nl=5&page=1&ip=1.1.1.1&excID= Notice the difference at the "cat=" point. The files to be changed are: Files with: "cat=(% form.keywords as html %)" in Your SF URL: FATbomb\engines\skins\default-results.html FATbomb\skins\default-results.html FATbomb\skins\lubz.html FATbomb\templates\lubz.html Files with: Your SF standard URL: FATbomb\engines\templates\admin\cover.html FATbomb\engines\templates\cover.html FATbomb\templates\admin\cover.html FATbomb\templates\search\cover2.html FATbomb\templates\search2\cover2.html FATbomb\templates\cover.html As you can see, there are TEN (10) files to be changed. All I can say is "BE CAREFUL" and recheck/verify each and every one of them as you complete each file. I know most of the early bombers already clicked to this. I thought the new bombers might appreciate it. I know, I sure did when it was pointed out to me. AND...don't forget to substitute left and right brackets for the "()" above!!! John #35, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by ezrydn on Jun-28-04 at 06:10 PM In response to message #34 Have a code question: I would like to have a Cherrybomb pheed listed at the top of the Phatty search results as "sponsored listings." Then, the regular Phatty listings below that. How do we "code" this and still use only one search box, having the singular search keyword/phrase sent to both Cherry & Phatty for returns? John #36, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Rick Wilson on Jun-28-04 at 07:40 PM In response to message #34 >You need to take Notepad and make two copies of your SF url, >for 'cut & paste' operation. Mine are: > >http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/feed/XMLFeed.jsp?trackID=xxxxxxxxxxx&pID=xxxxx&cat=(% >form.keywords as html %)&nl=5&page=1&ip=1.1.1.1&excID= >NOTE: Instead of "(" and ")", use left and right brackets! > >http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/feed/XMLFeed.jsp?trackID=xxxxxxxxxxx&pID=xxxxx&cat=patriotic&nl=5&page=1&ip=1.1.1.1&excID= > >Notice the difference at the "cat=" point. > John, At ip=1.1.1.1 in your example above ... Is it supposed to be ip=1.1.1.1 OR ip= (blank)?? Or is that 1.1.1.1 just an example? Told ya I wuz programming-challenged! Plus It's late here on the east coast. LOL Just want to make sure I did it right. Thanks!! Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel #37, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Jun-28-04 at 07:47 PM In response to message #36 John, You will need to modify your template to include your Cherrybomb call. But I'm not sure if your server will parse it, because it's being included in a page that itself is being generated by a Perl program. Rick, I think your tag needs to show &id=$id for Searchfeed, not hard-coded as 1.1.1.1 . Jeff #38, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Rick Wilson on Jun-28-04 at 08:32 PM In response to message #37 Thanks Jeff, Looking at the XML Feed format on SF's site, it used that example too, so I guess I got conFUZED! From the SF site ... "This is a REQUIRED parameter for XML Feed and Text Feed. The value for the parameter is the IP address of the person who performs the search. On most systems this is the REMOTE_ADDR parameter that comes with the HTTP request. ip=1.1.1.1" You'd think that they would say, ip=$id so us newbies might have a crack at understanding it. LOL Thanks Again! Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel #39, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Rick Wilson on Jun-28-04 at 08:32 PM In response to message #37 >Rick, > >I think your tag needs to show &id=$id >for Searchfeed, not hard-coded as 1.1.1.1 . > >Jeff Jeff, Is that supposed to be &id=$id or &ip=$id or &ip=$ip ?? Just making sure ... Thanks Much! Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel #40, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Jun-28-04 at 08:33 PM In response to message #39 LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-04 AT 08:35 PM (PST) Rick, Oops, glad you caught that. Guess I went to Mars for a second... It should be: &ip=$ip Jeff p.s. - The $ip variable is created by the program you're using, in this case one of the bombs. Other programs may well call it something else. #41, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Rick Wilson on Jun-28-04 at 09:13 PM In response to message #40 >Rick, > >Oops, glad you caught that. Guess I went to Mars for a >second... Don't feel bad ... Sometimes I end up ALOT further than Mars. Heh Heh > >It should be: > >&ip=$ip > > >Jeff > >p.s. - The $ip variable is created by the program you're >using, in this case one of the bombs. Other programs may >well call it something else. I see ... Thanks for explaining! Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel #42, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by ezrydn on Jun-29-04 at 05:44 AM In response to message #41 Rick, Like you, I was dumb enough to follow exactly what SF gave me on their page. We 'super-programmers' don't catch that little stuff, do we? Thanks, Jeff, for catching that...and, the correction. ----- If I understand you correctly, above, I should 'try' a Cherry call in the Phatty results template before the Phatty call. I'll give that a "look-see" later today and let you know what the outcome is. My main focus for the question was that there would only be one input from the user and that would be in the Phatty search box. That would send out two call commands, one to Cherry and the other to Phatty. Therein lay my confusion. "Pluto calling...there's no life out here." John #43, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Jun-29-04 at 05:47 AM In response to message #42 John, I misunderstood what you wanted with Cherrybomb + Fatbomb. I thought you just wanted to display Cherrybomb results along with Fatbomb results for the same keyword. Sorry, the "double play" search/results from a search box can't happen with the existing programming. Jeff #44, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by ezrydn on Jun-29-04 at 06:05 PM In response to message #43 Jeff, That IS what I wanted to do --> Phatty Search box input (1 keyword) That keyword input would trigger BOTH a Cherry AND a Phatty "call". (from ONE search box) Cherry results for inputted keyword would be above the line, Phatty results for same keyword would be below the line. (this part isn't a question) Yes or No? John #45, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Kurt on Jun-29-04 at 06:07 PM In response to message #44 John, As you posted the question, the answer is "NO". I left out CherryBomb as being too server intensive if mixed with FatBomb. Use the JS versions for the PPCs. In theory, you could use SSI tags and PageBomb and combine Cherry and Fat that way, but that would be very server intensive, in most cases. #46, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Jun-29-04 at 06:10 PM In response to message #44 John, The long and short answer: No That would be two different programs run from one form action. It could be done with another program & a bit of additional modification, but not as things stand right now. Jeff #47, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by loansies on Nov-05-04 at 05:00 PM In response to message #46 ...On the subject of skins... * I've created my own skins (3 of them akin to default, default-box, and default-results). Everything is working fine, except for one thing. The address bar used to display the site address with the keyword search, etc., in it. I have a "bookmark us" script running on the page, so when someone clicks it, they can revert back to the FatBomb search page they bookmarked. Anyway, for some reason, it's not showing up anymore when I use my skins...It just refers to the .CGI file (in the address bar). It works fine, but the visitor cannot bookmark the page. They are referred back to the default search box. Any thoughts on what variable I might want to look at to correct this? thanks. T #48, using search box outside of skins Posted by kelvin brown on Nov-07-04 at 10:04 AM In response to message #32 I am trying to use more SSI options on my sites. I am comfortable working with and modifing skins. Problem: I cannot seem to add the fatbomb search box (only), to a plain html page outside the skins area. I tried using ssi , and i tried coping the raw code from default-box. help kelvin #49, RE: using search box outside of skins Posted by Poker on Nov-08-04 at 12:01 PM In response to message #48 Kelvin, If I am reading this correctlty. . . You can't add the search box from the admin area? That should go right in. Any more info? Chris #50, RE: using search box outside of skins Posted by kelvin brown on Nov-08-04 at 09:53 AM In response to message #49 that is correct. I added the search box, but only get the form, it does not work correctly. http://vegabase.com/prescripton-news/prescription-drugs.html kelvin #51, RE: using search box outside of skins Posted by Poker on Nov-09-04 at 12:41 PM In response to message #50 LAST EDITED ON Nov-09-04 AT 12:42 PM (PST) Kelvin, Take the ssi call. That looks like it is anyway. Next in the form put the full path to you FBomb script. As it stands now you are calling from a relative directory. "<form method="POST" action="/prescription-drugs/search.cgi/">" <form method="POST" action="/cgi-bin/fatbomb-name/prescription-drugs/search.cgi/"> If that doesn't work shoot me some login info and I will take a look. Chris #52, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by georgesepich on Jan-17-05 at 05:39 PM In response to message #0 Currently my fatbomb is setup with Searchfeed results. I would like to mix up some pages using adsense instead of searchfeed. I don't know what part of Fatbomb pulls in Searchfeed. Do I need to edit the default-results.html in the skins directory and change/eliminate searchfeed? If so, what do I change? I tried searching for "searchfeed" in the forum but couldn't come up with a specific answer on my own. I would also still like to be able to generate pages with Searchfeed like I'm setup now. I'm just not sure how to switch back and forth between Searchfeed and Adsense when I'm making pages. Thanks for your help in advance. George #53, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Jan-17-05 at 05:45 PM In response to message #52 Hi George, The call to Searchfeed is in (assuming you're using your default skin) skins/default-results.html, line 27 I think. You can replace the SF javascript line with Adsense javascript. But, if you want to include both on different pages, then you need to create another skin to contain Adsense instead of Searchfeed. To switch back and forth, on your pages, use &skin=default to display SF, &skin=newskinname to display Adsense in your SSI tags. Jeff p.s. - I suggest making a backup of everything you change. Skins can be tricky if you're not used to them. #54, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Poker on Jan-17-05 at 05:51 PM In response to message #52 George, You will need to edit the "default-results.html." Just comment out from around line 24 - <script> listings = new Array ();</script> to around line 58- <document.write("<tr><td colspan=3><img src='http://www.searchfeed.com/Images/pixel.gif' height=4></td></tr>"); document.write("</table>"); } </script> I would make a backup copy first! As far as switching back and forth, just stick in some comments and do a find and replace. Some Adsense. Some SF. Chris #55, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by ebook13552 on Jan-21-05 at 10:27 AM In response to message #54 This is probably the wrong place to post however I have been looking for over 2 hours now so hopefuly someone will point me in the right direction. I noticed that some of the Fatbom site examples do not have the Powered By Fatbomb Search Engine statement at the end. What are the rules in order to be able to remove the Powered By Fatbomb Search Engine and the sponsors links at the top of the searches. I have made a donation is there something else I am required to do. Hopefully someone can help, thanks in advance. Dave MacGregor #56, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Kurt on Jan-21-05 at 10:29 AM In response to message #55 >What are the rules in order to be able to remove the >Powered By Fatbomb Search Engine and the sponsors links at >the top of the searches. I have made a donation is there >something else I am required to do. Dave, Making a donation allows you to remove the Powered By link. The SearchFeed links can be removed at any time. #57, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by ebook13552 on Jan-21-05 at 03:07 AM In response to message #56 Kurt, Thanks for that. Can someone point me to how I do that. Sorry to be a pain any help appreciated. Thanks #58, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Kurt on Jan-22-05 at 03:08 AM In response to message #57 Dave, Links to make a donation are in the Read Me. A link to the FatBomb ReadMe is at the top of each Forum page. Thanks... #59, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by Castle on Mar-14-05 at 06:48 PM In response to message #58 I have been making Fat .html pages for a while and linking to them. My wife says why don't I just make dynamic links, then I won't have to go to the trouble of making each individual .html page. All I would have to do is make the links and I would be done. It is my impression that the .html pages are perceived better because the engines will see them as many individual pages whereas if I just used an index page with dynamic links the engines would see that as one page with a bunch of links. Am I right or wrong? Do sites do better with the .html pages or would they tend to do just as well with the dymanic pages? Thanks for your help Castle (Wasn't quite sure where to post this but the making pages thread inside has been locked, so I hoped this was appropriate.) #60, RE: FatBomb Templates and Skins Posted by jeffhope on Mar-14-05 at 06:50 PM In response to message #59 Castle, Contact me through email or the forum PM to discuss. There are some aspects of this that I don't want to get into here in a public forum. Jeff