#0, 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Nov-20-07 at 01:18 AM
LAST EDITED ON Dec-06-07 AT 12:58 PM (PST)
In addition to using SSI to add BlogBomb results to your pages, this thread will also serve as a general discussion of SSI and why it's so powerful.SSI is essential for becoming a "power" webmaster. Investing a little time know will be a huge time-saver for you in the future.
SSI = Server Side Include - This tells your server to "include" another file in your webpage.
This file can be the results from a cgi script, such as BlogBomb or Fatty, or it can be to insert a small html or text file into a web page.
Think of SSI like a link, except instead of taking you to another page, it actually inserts the content into the web page.
For example, create a text file and paste in your AdSense code. Now save that file as:
adsense.html
Now, instead of adding AdSense code directly to our pages, we instead add an SSI tag calling another web page:
adsense.html.
Something like this:
<!--#include virtual="adsense.html" -->
Now if we put this SSI tag into our pages, any time we want to change our Adsense we ONLY NEED TO CHANGE ONE FILE!!!
If you have thousands of pages, or more, if you plan ahead and put SSI tags on your pages you can save a ton of time.
Over at www.pheeds.com I have a mirror of Wikipedia with 100,000's of web pages.
I did a search/replace of each page and added numerous SSI tags to all the pages.
Now, I can change a single html file and instantly make changes across ALL the pages at once.
You also can use SSI tags to add dynamic content to your pages. BlogBomb is very good for this.
Assuming BlogBomb is up and running and you've added some good RSS pheeds, you can now use SSI to communicate with BlogBomb to add and modify content on your pages.
You can also use SSI to add Fatty results and each time you modify fatty, say with more links to other sites, all your pages will be updated automatically.
Picture this in your mind for your own niche.
SSI TAG TO BLOGBOMB- Contains links to RSS pheeds
ARTICLE FROM ARTICLE DIRECTORY
SSI TAG TO FATTY - Contains links to your other sites, quality SERPs, etc.
Adding different elements to an article is a great way to create quality, unique pages.
If you have a bunch of articles or web pages already in html format, then it's pretty easy to automate adding SSI tags, based on different keywords per page...This will add different content to each page.
Once you get the hang of SSI, have the Amazon script, Fatty and BlogBomb working, then move on to PageBomb, which is built to exploit SSI.
#1, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Dec-06-07 at 03:39 PM
In response to message #0
BBX2 has an SSI tag generator. Just log into your admin
click < Update Pheeds > for the category you want to use
Scroll to "Generate Special SSI Tag" and fill in the basic info.
You'll get an SSI tag that looks something like this:
<!--#include virtual="/cgi-bin/BBX2/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?cat=5&keywords=kittens&mode=all&results=15" -->
This will work on all pages in your root/main folder on your site.
If your pages are in a subfolder, such as:
www.yourdomain.com/SubFolder/page.html
Then you need to tell the tag to "move up" a folder and add a couple of dots:
<!--#include virtual="../cgi-bin/BBX2/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?cat=5&keywords=kittens&mode=all&results=15" -->
Sometimes you need to add two more dots and another slash, if you're in a sub/sub folder:
<!--#include virtual="../../cgi-bin/BBX2/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?cat=5&keywords=kittens&mode=all&results=15" -->
#2, htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Dec-06-07 at 03:43 PM
In response to message #1
Once you've added the SSI tags to your pages, you need to upload a simple file called an htaccess file.An htaccess file is just a small text file that gives special instructions to the server your pages are hosted on.
In this case, we want to tell the server to look for SSI tags.
htaccess
Create a simple text file and name it:
.htaccess (Don't forget the dot!)
Paste this single line of text in it:
AddHandler server-parsed .html
And upload it to the root of your domain.
Don't forget it may "disapear" on your server after it's uploaded.
That's it...
#3, RE: htaccess
Posted by Jeff Usher on Dec-07-07 at 01:01 PM
In response to message #2
LAST EDITED ON Dec-07-07 AT 01:23 PM (PST)
Kurt,I've read that making the server parse all html files by using the .htaccess method can put a heavy load on the server.
What's your opinion on this ?
Have you tested server loads on a site with maybe 1000s of pages, I don't want top start building sites using this method on a shared server only to find my account suspended for heavy processor usage.
Regards
Jeff
#4, RE: htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Dec-07-07 at 01:25 PM
In response to message #3
Hi Jeff,My opinion is...htaccess only takes server resources if you're getting traffic, and if you're getting traffic you should be able to make enough money to upgrade hosts.
#5, RE: htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Dec-07-07 at 03:43 PM
In response to message #4
PS...Jeff and All...If you're worried about SSI and htaccess, remember later this month we're moving on ZZ Tuel.
ZZ Tuel uses RSS to make and update static html pages. All the work is done on your PC, then the pages are FTP'd to your sites.
With ZZ, you don't need to check path to perl, set permissions, make sure you have the right modules or version of PHP...You don't need to hassle with hosts that don't have their cgi-bin working correctly, etc.
You do need to be connected the the Net, your PC on and Tuelz running. If this is a problem, use Fatty and BBX2 more.
Again, if your Net connection is a concern, use "server side" resources like BBX2, Fatty and other scripts.
If your hosting resources/skills the big concern, use ZZ Tuel.
Being a Bomber is all about options.
#6, RE: htaccess
Posted by farazahmed on Dec-09-07 at 09:31 PM
In response to message #5
hi,
I have found a few rss pheeds.
These are the links:http://answers.yahoo.com/rss/searchq?p=harry+potter+wands
Blogbomb asks for the html as well as xml url. So, for the above result. I put in the html link as http://answers.yahoo.com/rss/searchq?p=harry+potter+wands and the xml url as http://search.yahoo.com/mrss
Then I put the ssi tags given, in my site. I am getting a no results on that page. take a look here -- http://www.rowlingpotter.com/harry-potter-wands.html
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http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?format=rss&FORM=RSRE&q=harry+potter+wands
For this one I put the html url as above and the xml url as http://search.msn.com:80/results.aspx?q=harry+potter+wands&format=rss&FORM=R0RE . I hope I have used the correct urls, please let me know if i should be doing it some other way.
when I put in the ssi tags, I am able to see the results just below the "no results found" from the previous ssi tag I mentioned.
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http://www.bloglines.com/search?q=harry+potter+wands&ql=en&s=f&pop=l&news=m&format=rss
For this one, I use the html url as http://www.bloglines.com/search?q=harry%20potter%20wands&ql=en&s=f&pop=l&news=m and the xml url as http://www.bloglines.com/search?q=harry+potter+wands&ql=en&s=f&pop=l&news=m&format=rss and when I click on add in the blogbomb admin, a message says "cannot retrieve url"
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http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&tab=wb&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=%22harry+potter+wands%22
I used xml url as http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch_feeds?hl=en&tab=wb&scoring=d&q=%22harry+potter+wands%22&ie=utf-8&num=10&output=rss and the html url as http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&tab=wb&scoring=d&ie=UTF-8&num=10&q=%22harry+potter+wands%22 and it seems to be working fine although some of the results dont seem to be much related to harry potter.
Please give your suggestions and advice about this.
Take a look at the page that I made using these tags.---- http://www.rowlingpotter.com/harry-potter-wands.html
bye,
faraz
#7, RE: htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Dec-09-07 at 11:43 PM
In response to message #6
Hi Faraz,You're getting it.
Couple of notes: RSS is about news and current events and doesn't have the depth of results that "normal" search engine results have.
A topic such as "harry potter wands" depends on people blogging about it and/or the topic is "newsworthy". This means you'll find more "no results" with RSS than you will with web search results.
Keep in mind, a major use of BlogBomb will be to use your own RSS pheeds. This will create an auto-linking system across your entire network.
Also, BlogBomb is for quick updates of web pages. ZZ Tuel will take this a step further and let us create new pages from the RSS pheeds.
Get to know how to find pheeds for BlogBomb (which Faraz is doing), with the understanding that soon we'll be using BlogBomb even more for cross-linking than for adding content.
#8, Using Multiple SSI Tags
Posted by Kurt on Dec-10-07 at 01:21 AM
In response to message #7
By now you should have at least three different sources of dynamic content:
Fatty
BlogBomb
Amazon scriptThe amazon script can either be installed on the same domain and called using SSI, or it can generate an RSS pheed and be fed to BlogBomb/ZZ Tuel.
Try mixing and matching these three resources with things like PLR or articles you get from article directories.
Now picture pages that look like:
------------------------
RSS Keyword Content
<SSI tag to blogbomb>
PLR/Spun Article
5 Fatty Results
<SSI tag to Fatty>
RSS YOUR NETWORK LINKS - (Used to cross-link your own pages/blogs/lenses)
<SSI tag to blogbomb>
------------------------
Get to know the "variables" for your SSI tags, so that you can control things like the keyword and the number of results.
The best way to do this is just to do it...You can't break anything, so go play around a little bit.
#9, RE: Using Multiple SSI Tags
Posted by hyperpower on Dec-22-07 at 00:42 AM
In response to message #8
LAST EDITED ON Dec-22-07 AT 00:43 AM (PST)
Hey Kurt,I'm trying to add the zon script to the sidebar of fatbomb search results. Can't get it to work.
I added to my fatbomb skin
<!--#include virtual="/cgi-bin/blogbomb/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?cat=2" -->
It works on index.html though...
It can't work on the skin. I tried
<!--#include virtual="../cgi-bin/blogbomb/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?cat=2" -->
<!--#include virtual="../../cgi-bin/blogbomb/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?cat=2" -->
<!--#include virtual="../../../cgi-bin/blogbomb/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?cat=2" -->
all can't work too. any idea what to do?
Christopher
#10, RE: Using Multiple SSI Tags
Posted by Kurt on Dec-22-07 at 01:29 AM
In response to message #9
HI C,You can't add SSI tags to cgi templates.
You need to add the tags above to .html pages and upload to your site.
#11, RE: Using Multiple SSI Tags
Posted by hyperpower on Dec-22-07 at 03:10 AM
In response to message #10
>HI C,
>
>You can't add SSI tags to cgi templates.
>
>You need to add the tags above to .html pages and upload to
>your site.
Yup I Have added it in the skin.html.. can that work?
anyway, can I put the zon script at the sidebar of fatbomb search results?
Chris
#12, RE: Using Multiple SSI Tags
Posted by Kurt on Dec-22-07 at 10:12 AM
In response to message #11
>>HI C,
>>
>>You can't add SSI tags to cgi templates.
>>
>>You need to add the tags above to .html pages and upload to
>>your site.
>
>
>Yup I Have added it in the skin.html.. can that work?
>
>anyway, can I put the zon script at the sidebar of fatbomb
>search results? Hi Chris,
Can't do it...You can't use SSI in the skins/templates, it won't work. You need to convert the pages to static html, then add any extra SSI.
#13, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by emailcash on Jan-08-08 at 07:44 PM
In response to message #0
Will the Special SSI Tag that BlogBomb creates work on a .php webpage or is there something special that I need to do?
Thanks,
Lewis
#14, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Jan-08-08 at 11:37 PM
In response to message #13
>Will the Special SSI Tag that BlogBomb creates work on a
>.php webpage or is there something special that I need to
>do? Hi Lewis,
I don't know php at all, so I can't give you a god answer...But I can tell you to give it a try and see what happens, you won't break anything.
I'm not sure if you need an SSI or php include? Maybe someone that knows php better will let us know.
Sorry I couldn't be of any help...
#15, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by emailcash on Jan-09-08 at 06:18 AM
In response to message #14
I have tried it on one of my websites and the generated SSI code doesn't seem to work that's why I was asking the question.
Lewis
#16, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by tasari on Jan-10-08 at 01:59 PM
In response to message #15
We had this talk already before A while ago...I quote Cindy1 :
"What's going on is that I'm using blogbomb and a random .cgi script on one of my sites. I wanted to add another script, which happened to be PHP.
My original .htaccess file had this line for blogbomb to work correctly:
AddHandler server-parsed .html
When I added the PHP script, I had to change that line in .htaccess to this, so the php script would work (pages were made as .html):
AddType application/x-httpd-php .html .htm
My next problem was calling the blogbomb and random includes. Originally I had -
<!--#include virtual="/cgi-bin/BBx2/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?channel=1&results=6" -->
and
<!--#include virtual="cgi-bin/random-file.cgi" -->
I had to change those to PHP includes, so they now look like this:
<?php
$data = file("http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/random-file.cgi";
foreach( $data as $value ) {
echo $value;
}
?>
and
<?php
$data = file("http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/BBx2/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?channel=1&results=6";
foreach( $data as $value ) {
echo $value;
}
?>
Make sense?
Cindy"
Tasari
#17, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Jan-10-08 at 02:22 PM
In response to message #16
Thanks Taz...>file("http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/random-file.cgi";
>file("http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/BBx2/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?channel=1&results=6";
Anyone using this note that this forum has a bug that adds a semi-colon to the end of each URL:
;
Be sure to remove the ; or else this code won't work.
#18, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by emailcash on Jan-10-08 at 07:52 PM
In response to message #17
Thanks Tasari, just what I was looking for.
Sure makes it a lot easier to add feeds to my websites.
Now I know what I can use BlogBomb for - I'm sure that I will find other uses as I go along.
Again thanks.
Lewis
#19, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by tasari on Jan-11-08 at 01:38 PM
In response to message #18
No problem I always try to help out... Meanwhile my Tuelz works perfectly !Tasari
#20, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by farazahmed on May-06-08 at 02:37 AM
In response to message #19
I am using blogbomb to put rss feeds on my pages.
I had installed on a subdomain of mine and was using it on this subdomain.Is there a way that I can use this installation to put rss feeds on my sites in another subdomain?
Say I have two subdomains A and B . What I want to do is to use the blogbomb installation of subdomain A to put rss feeds or ssi tags on subdomain B.
How do I do it?
I am getting an internal server error when I am trying to install blogbomb on subdomain B(dont know why!!)
Please give your advice and suggestions.
bye,
faraz
#21, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by tasari on May-06-08 at 01:02 PM
In response to message #20
>Say I have two subdomains A and B . What I want to do is to
>use the blogbomb installation of subdomain A to put rss
>feeds or ssi tags on subdomain B.
>How do I do it?
>
>bye,
>faraz I don't think that is possible because it uses the SSI to integrate in the pages...
Tasari
#22, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by tsuyoshi on May-06-08 at 04:53 PM
In response to message #20
>I am getting an internal server error when I am trying to
>install blogbomb on subdomain B(dont know why!!) file permissions?
If they are correct, you might want to try installing script with other FTP programs.
I once have had this problem that; I usually use FileZilla and never had this problem before, but it turned up to be FileZilla did not convert from DOS to UNIX format - my hosting company's support staff found out - try SmartFTP, Leech FTP, etc.
Ut
#23, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by farazahmed on May-06-08 at 10:02 PM
In response to message #22
Well, I am already using leech ftp and I have even checked my permissions which seem to be correct.
I think it could be a problem with my server.Lets see if Kurt can shed some light on how to start using the ssi tags for pages on another subdomain.
bye,
faraz
#24, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on May-06-08 at 11:51 PM
In response to message #23
Hi Faraz...Taz is better at server tech than I am. I doubt you can install BB on one sub and then use SSI to call BB from another sub.
While I'm not a server tech expert, I do know something about SEO...So, why are you using subs instead of directories? Reports are, Google recently started treating sub domains the same as sub folders.
Since there's no obvious advantage to using sub domains, I suggest you just use sub directories...Plus, sub directories can all use the same install of BB using SSI tags.
#25, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by farazahmed on May-06-08 at 11:58 PM
In response to message #24
well, actually I meant addon domains. I have the blogbomb on an addon domain of mine. I thought that addon domains actually are on a subdomain so that is why I mentioned subdomains.So, it means that I will have to go on trying to install it?
Could anyone help me with the installation, please.
I am getting an internal server error and when I check the error logs it says that "premature end of script headers"
#26, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on May-07-08 at 01:07 AM
In response to message #25
>
>So, it means that I will have to go on trying to install it?
>Could anyone help me with the installation, please.
>I am getting an internal server error and when I check the
>error logs it says that "premature end of script headers"
Faraz,
You need to start paying better attention to the thread topics.
This thread is about how to make pages. Your problem is concerning istallation. Post BB installtion questions on the BB installation thread. You make it very hard for others looking for answers to their own questions.
#27, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by WarnerCarter on Jun-17-08 at 04:54 PM
In response to message #26
when you send out rss from blogbomb to a different site and domain does that site need to have blogbomb installed there to recieve the information?can I select certain feeds or parts of feeds to be sent to one site and others to be sent to another site?
is blogbomb mainly to output html to webpages?
would this be good for input to a wordpress blog as individual posts? why would I use blogbomb instead of just a rss wp tool like wp-o-matic or smartRSS?
I just started putting some feeds into some wp blogs bit it seems one is indexing the feed posts and one is not.
please excuse me for my totally noob questions but I am serious about learning all this
#28, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Jun-17-08 at 06:02 PM
In response to message #27
>when you send out rss from blogbomb to a different site and
>domain does that site need to have blogbomb installed there
>to recieve the information? Every site you want to display RSS pheeds on needs BlogBomb installed. However, you don't need BlogBomb to "send" RSS, you can input RSS pheeds from many sources.
>can I select certain feeds or parts of feeds to be sent to
>one site and others to be sent to another site?
To some degree. However, it's best to tink of using BlogBomb on a domain to select certain info by keyword.
>is blogbomb mainly to output html to webpages?
This is specifically what BlogBomb does. It converts RSS to html. It also automatically checks for updates. This makes "static" html pages dynamic.
>would this be good for input to a wordpress blog as
>individual posts? why would I use blogbomb instead of just a
>rss wp tool like wp-o-matic or smartRSS?
No BlogBomb is for use with static html pages. You'll need another program to use with blogs if you want to "drip pheed" content. There is a big exception, and we'll use blogbomb to cross-link all of our pages/sites. You can add this BlogBomb pheed to blogs.
>I just started putting some feeds into some wp blogs bit it
>seems one is indexing the feed posts and one is not.
I'm not a WP expert at all and would need a lot more info.
Warner, now that you have BB installed and working, at least to some degree...Think about a "main" site. Give it a little thought and planning.
Then, install an instance of BlogBomb on this main site. You can install more than one BB per domain, just change the name of the folder.
Also, every time you create ANYTHING that exports a RSS pheed in the same niche, such as WP, Blogger a WEb 2.0 profile, an Awebber email(?), you add all of these RSS pheeds to your main BlogBomb.
Your next step will be to learn how to create RSS pheeds, so everytime you create a new site or page, you create a new RSS "item" and add it to this main BlogBomb.
Think about this...Everything you do will be added to a main blogbomb. And everyting you do will try to add this RSS to it.
Here's why: Let's say you have 10 "regular" sites, 10 WP blogs, some bookmarking links, 10 Bloggers, 10 Squidoo lenses...And now you create a new site/page.
Do you want to go back to all those resources and add links to your new stuff? No.
But if you set this all up correctly, you just add your main BlogBomb RSS pheed each time and all of your older resources will update to include your newer, relevant links, and all you have to do is update your main BlogBomb, instead of visiting your all of your old sites one at a time.
Assuming your 4 blogs are all generally related and use the same general keywords, find the RSS pheeds for each and pop them into your main BlogBomb. As you build more stuff, add this BlogBomb pheed to your new pages and you'll build links to your WP blogs.
#29, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by jeffhope on Jun-17-08 at 06:26 PM
In response to message #28
Hi Warner,The goal is, to the extent possible, to keep visitors (and spiders) within your own network of sites. Instead of adding RSS from places like Yahoo, etc., you add your own RSS from your own sites to your own sites (including Squidoo, etc).
So, visitors hitting your site will hopefully click to your money site(s) from your main content, but if not, they may very well click to another one of your sites through one of your RSS links, and there they'll have another chance to go to your money site(s).
Jeff
p.s. - Depending on the site where they're placed (Squidoo, etc), those RSS links may well count as inbound links to your other sites too.
#30, building on Blogbomb
Posted by WarnerCarter on Jun-17-08 at 08:10 PM
In response to message #29
The idea I had for the site where I installed blogbomb was niche directories.That was why I chose a sort of generic fit many type name for that domain, innerhub.com
I like the be a hub idea.
I am not certain this is the best thing I could do here but it sounds reasonable.
The 4 blogs I am running as autoblogs, feeding in from news and other blogs are in separate niches.
weight loss
debt management
scuba
iphone
there is one other site that was made to give away free re-branded internet marketing ebooks and other stuff which is kind of new.
As things develop I want to do some sites for Amazon higher priced items like TV, Blueray, jewelery, more expensive tools, much along the lines of what Jeff Johnson has been doing.
I had thought it might work to make sub-domains for each niche
to be directories like:
scuba.innedhub.com
diet.innerhub.com
iphone.innerhub.com
debtmagement.innerhub.com
to make them maybe directories with news, possibly if I can some user interactivity.
I wonder if a directory is the thing to be, or have it as a niche search site and/or news site may be trying to do too much in one location.
Just to be practical I would probably focus on the weight loss site first and go build more tin and silver sites to build that. Squidoo, social network blogs, hubpages, blogger blogs
of course the weight loss area is close to fitness, recipes, cooking, and specific breakdowns of the niche like weight loss with yoga, tai chi, running
To narrow the niche to targets I want to use INZ to run a bunch of keywords I have in nichebot, using the best keywords to make the tin and silver sites more effective.
does this sound like a good plan? what is the best way to use blogbomb here? I get adding feeds from a group of niche related sites which I can make a few a day probably. So I would output this into the innerhub pages? Maybe add some affiliate offers that relate? Add soehing interactive? Add some tools, Add search. So it is a usefull relevant site people will like.
Thanks for all your help.
#31, RE: building on Blogbomb
Posted by jeffhope on Jun-18-08 at 04:01 AM
In response to message #30
LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-08 AT 04:46 AM (PST)
Hi Warner,You remind me of myself about 5 years ago. Studying, analyzing, thinking, improving, perfecting, before I ever built a page. I had already been writing PHP, MySQL, Linux server admin, etc., for many years before that, so you can imagine how I felt compelled to use all that I knew to "improve" on what the Bombs were already doing. And of course, this was back before we had Tuelz thrown into the mix!
Kurt had/has a thread around here somewhere from those days, where he describes how the Bombers making the most money weren't the most technical, but the ones who just started building sites.
And that was correct - it's 100% guaranteed that if you don't have any pages up, you're not going to get any visitors. There's a phrase you may have heard "Ready, Fire, Aim", and with the Bombs/Tuelz approach that's definitely true. It's the "Fire" that must come first.
Like me back then, you are in essence trying to design, plan, and build the perfect mansion before you've learned to (and actually built) a lean-to. It doesn't work that way, and it's a sure path to frustration and eventual failure.
So, here is my suggestion:
Pick ONE of those niches you mentioned, and build your money site first. Unique content, good affiliate program to promote, etc. It shouldn't take more than a few days, even with 10-20 unique articles. Until that's done, forget Bombs, Tuelz, hubs, etc. Just build a single money site in one niche only. You can come back later on & tweak, improve conversions, add more quality content, etc.
Just an aside about niches: IMO, your stated niches are too "wide". For example, "weight loss" and "scuba". I'd narrow them down a bit, but don't go so narrow that there's very little traffic. For example, "weight loss for baby boomers", "weight loss for new moms", "scuba in Cozumel", and "scuba at the Great Barrier Reef" will all probably work. "Weight loss for vegans" and "Scuba on Golden Pond" probably won't...
After your money site is ready, then come back to Tuelz/Bombs & build a silver site. This will link to your first "money" or "gold" site. Build one silver site using Blogbomb for part of it, and maybe one other Tuel/Bomb (depending on what you do).
Then, set up a few Squidoo, Hubpages, Blogger, Wordpress.com, etc., maybe one page at each, and mix in your RSS feeds from your silver site with some other content (rewritten PLR using Tuelz, etc). These will link primarily back to your silver site, although through your RSS items they may also link to other tin sites that are related.
You now have a gold - silver - tin structure. The silver-tin combination can be thought of as a "leg" of the gold site. Now, repeat the silver-tin portion to add another leg to your gold site. This time, if you want, you can mix in another Bomb or Tuel.
After getting that first gold site up, with maybe 4-6 "legs" supporting it, that would be the time to look back over your notes from this process, figure out how you can improve it little by little if you want, how to make it more uniquely "yours", throw in some more resources, what works best for driving traffic, etc.
Jeff
#32, RE: building on Blogbomb
Posted by jeffhope on Jun-18-08 at 04:14 AM
In response to message #31
LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-08 AT 04:22 AM (PST)
Oh, one more thing:Don't worry about the hub concept, at least not how you stated it. I'd keep each niche to itself. It helps keep you focused on the one task. Also, if that were your money site, and your host went down for an extended period of time, you wouldn't be making any money from it. I'd keep each niche gold site on its own separate hosting account at different ISPs, just so they all won't be down at once.
Re. the hub idea: If you had the domain, for example, ScubaDivingCozumel.com, and you wanted to make related subdomains for that:
equipment.scubadivingcozumel.com
accomodations.scubadivingcozumel.com
air-travel.scubadivingcozumel.com
cruises.scubadivingcozumel.com
dive-shops.scubadivingcozumel.com
I think that would be OK. But I wouldn't try to make an all-things-to-all-people site like about.com for the reasons above.
Remember, the RSS items in Blogbomb won't be linking back to the site where Blogbomb is installed. Instead, they will be linking to your other sites/pages. So you could install Blogbomb to some-old-domain-that-no-one-will-ever-see.com, and that would be no problem.
Forget RSS "news" from Yahoo, etc. You are by and large going to make your own RSS feeds to put in Blogbomb, with descriptions & keywords you want, linking to pages you want. So Blogbomb will act more as a database & central repository of links to all your pages & sites. As Kurt mentioned, you will then have one central place from which to manage all your inbound links to all your sites, without having to go update Squidoo, Hubpages, etc., every time you add a new site!
Also, I wouldn't bother too much with things like interactivity, local site search, gizmos of that sort, on your gold or any other of your sites. My experience has been (and it may be different for others), that so few visitors use them that they're not worth the extra time & effort to add. Kind of the old 80/20 rule, except it's more like 95/5 - don't bother with site gizmos that would impress the 5%. Instead, get as many of the other 95% as possible to click on your affiliate and other monetization links. The one exception would be if you wanted to add links to related "canned" Fatbomb searches, and/or a search box that would lead to results on a domain where Fatbomb is installed. For example, on a scuba in Cozumel site, link to "scuba diving in Cancun", "more to see in the Yucatan peninsula", etc. Those links would lead to a Fatbomb search, and ideally, the results would be all either your own sites or monetization sources.
Jeff
#33, RE: building on Blogbomb
Posted by Kurt on Jun-18-08 at 11:42 AM
In response to message #32
Hi Warner,1. Your recent posts are way off topic for this thread. This thread is about SSI tags and htaccess. If you have questions about a general plan, please post on the "Plan" thread.
2. Jeff Hope said:
"Kurt had/has a thread around here somewhere from those days, where he describes how the Bombers making the most money weren't the most technical, but the ones who just started building sites. "
Jeff...I was actually thinking the same thing before you posted.
Warner...Instead of looking for the perfect "plan", you need to be productive. The most sucessful Bombers are those with a good SEO background. They aren't techies and they aren't perfctionists, they are PRODUCTIVE.
They don't ask many questions, although they do drop by and ask a tech type question once in a while.
Instead, they put up sites and pages as quicly as they can.
3. I don't like your over-all plan:
A. Because you're jumping all over the place, from one unrelated niche to another. Instead, you should be trying to saturate a niche.
B. I don't like the use of sub domains. They don't have the value they may have had 6 months ago. Instead, create a couple of gold sites on your hosting, then expand to all the various free, third party resources available.
#34, RE: building on Blogbomb
Posted by ezrydn on Jun-18-08 at 04:56 PM
In response to message #33
In answer to the question about SSI working with .php pages:Some time back, I was working on a new site and I had Jeff Hope help me with it. He also made me change it over to a .php site. I had Blogbomb installed and working so, yes, it does work. You may have to give your .htaccess file a "clue" but I don't remember.
Hope this helps.
John
#35, RE: building on Blogbomb
Posted by farazahmed on Nov-18-08 at 04:49 PM
In response to message #34
>In answer to the question about SSI working with .php pages:
>
>Some time back, I was working on a new site and I had Jeff
>Hope help me with it. He also made me change it over to a
>.php site. I had Blogbomb installed and working so, yes, it
>does work. You may have to give your .htaccess file a
>"clue" but I don't remember.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>John Hi,
I had actually bought a few sites which are in php i.e. they are .php instead of .html .
So, could you please tell me what clue I need to give to my .htaccess
Or maybe Jeff, could give me a clue of how to do it?
Need a little help.
bye,
faraz
#36, Can't use SSI or PHP -- may need Javascript, please help.
Posted by BomBomBom on Jan-28-09 at 03:47 PM
In response to message #35
LAST EDITED ON Jan-28-09 AT 03:48 PM (PST)
I got a little problem trying to use BlogBomb feed on some PHP sites I generated using a particular system. The editing panels only allow HTML and Javascript, and no PHP is allowed, and the source PHP is encoded. Even though HTML is o.k., I can't use SSI because the files are php files. Only possibility is perhaps use Javascript.Is there Javascript code that I use to insert BlogBomb pheeds? Thanks.
#37, RE: Can't use SSI or PHP -- may need Javascript, please help.
Posted by Kurt on Jan-28-09 at 05:24 PM
In response to message #36
>I got a little problem trying to use BlogBomb feed on some
>PHP sites I generated using a particular system. The editing
>panels only allow HTML and Javascript, and no PHP is
>allowed, and the source PHP is encoded. Even though HTML is
>o.k., I can't use SSI because the files are php files. Only
>possibility is perhaps use Javascript.
>
>Is there Javascript code that I use to insert BlogBomb
>pheeds? Thanks.
Hi Jason,
Javascipt can't be read by the SEs.
However, go to your BB admin and you will see a box for a PHP "include". Use that on php pages instead of the SSI.
#38, RE: Can't use SSI or PHP -- may need Javascript, please help.
Posted by BomBomBom on Jan-28-09 at 09:52 PM
In response to message #37
>Javascipt can't be read by the SEs.
>
>However, go to your BB admin and you will see a box for a
>PHP "include". Use that on php pages instead of the SSI. The PHP pages are encrypted, that's why I can't insert PHP code. I am talking to the developer and hopefully we'll work something out to enable me to insert PHP.
#39, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by calvin on Oct-26-09 at 05:58 PM
In response to message #0
Well I just did a few test pages that combined a static element as well as fat bomb results and a blog bomb feed. I made a 'tin' blog bomb feed from around 200 feeds from the resources that I have so far (sb, lenses, article & video directories, bloggers, my sites, etc.) I used the schuffle setting and got quite the mish-mash of rss items. It works great, but...
I guess my question is: do you guys clean up the feeds that you put into blog bomb somehow, so that they all look fairly 'consistent' (much like how the fatbomb results look). Right now, some of my items are full feeds, some descriptions of varying lengths, some just titles, etc. It does look somewhat spammy with what I've put in so far.
I'm thinking that I should also be more careful about putting feeds into blog bomb that pertain closer to my broad niche. My social bookmark feeds right now are mixed with have different niches. Also, some of my articles and lenses are on random topics, even though I used anchor text links at the end of them that are targeted to my niche.
Just kind of thinking out loud here, but was wondering if you guys try to make the feeds being output by blog bomb look 'nice'.
Thanks alot...Calvin
#40, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by kelvin brown on Oct-26-09 at 06:48 PM
In response to message #39
LAST EDITED ON Oct-26-09 AT 06:50 PM (PST)
Calvin,I will give you 2 things to look at.
First Scrubz - you can use that to combine and clean up feedz and then put out the new feed to blogbomb
2nd you can use zz tuelz. ZZ has a feature that will let you choose keywords from your incoming feeds and thus enabling you to select only those feedz that actually contain content that you would likely want to add to your sites.
http://tuelz.com/readme/readme-zz.html#Keyword
Kelvin
#41, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Oct-26-09 at 10:29 PM
In response to message #39
>Just kind of thinking out loud here, but was wondering if
>you guys try to make the feeds being output by blog bomb
>look 'nice'. Hi Calvin...
To me, the key is it's a tin site. I don't worry that much about tins sites, the key is to get them up quickly.
Also, I like the variety of long/short, especially with tin type sites.
#42, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by calvin on Oct-27-09 at 01:14 PM
In response to message #41
LAST EDITED ON Oct-27-09 AT 01:42 PM (PST)
>
>>Just kind of thinking out loud here, but was wondering if
>>you guys try to make the feeds being output by blog bomb
>>look 'nice'.
>
>Hi Calvin...
>
>To me, the key is it's a tin site. I don't worry that much
>about tins sites, the key is to get them up quickly.
>
>Also, I like the variety of long/short, especially with tin
>type sites. Thanks Kurt & Kelvin. I'll start with what I've got now for the tin sites, and clean up some of the feeds I make in the future for use on silver sites. Best of both world's!
Thanks for the ZZ Tuel readme link as well.
Calvin
P.S. How many links (from RSS feeds or otherwise) are 'too many' to put on our tin sites. I know the number should vary, but just looking for a general rule of thumb.
#43, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by farazahmed on Dec-04-10 at 00:08 AM
In response to message #42
Hi,
I am having some problems trying to accomplish something with blogbomb and need your help.
What I want to do is to use the rss feeds of my site here -- http://studentloanz.org/articles/ .
Now, i have already created the rss feeds of this here -- http://studentloanz.org/articles/rssfeeds.xmlI entered this url into the rss url of blogbomb and entered the title and description. Not sure what to put in the html url.
I created the pheeds and used the ssi tags in my site here -- http://studentloanz.org
But when I visit the index page, it shows " no results found" even though the pages are actually full of content.
Why is this happening and what can I do to solve this problem?
Faraz
#44, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Dec-04-10 at 04:05 AM
In response to message #43
Hi Faraz,IN the config file, make sure you modified this line to make sure it's using your domain:
$FEEDSEARCH_SSI_URL = "http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/blogbomb";
#45, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by farazahmed on Dec-04-10 at 04:49 AM
In response to message #44
Hi Kurt,
Actually I didnt understand your response.
Did you assume that blogbomb was not working.
Actually, blogbomb is working and I have put the ssi tag <!--#include virtual="/cgi-bin/bbc/feedsearch_ssi.cgi?channel=2" -->in the page here -- http://studentloanz.org/
So,if you look in the related articles box , there is a "results not found" . That is where I have put the ssi tag.
and instead of displaying the content there, its displaying a "results not found message.
To make this more clear, I have used a news rss feed just below my site feed and the news feed is displaying the results.
But when it comes to my site's feed i.e. http://studentloanz.org/articles/rssfeeds.xml then its says results not found.
Now, why is that happening? why is it not displaying the results, similar to the news feeds?
Hope I was able to explain it properly this time.
#46, RE: 4 Adding RSS/BlogBomb to Your Pages SSI and htaccess
Posted by Kurt on Dec-04-10 at 12:12 PM
In response to message #45
Hi Faraz,If you have one pheed working and one that isn't, the most likely cause is your site's pheed doesn't verify and has an error in it.
Also, what happens when you test it in the BlogBomb admin? Click on the "ssi" link for the particular pheed. If you see results there, then the problem has something to do with your SSI tag.
If you don't see results there, then the likely problem is a faulty RSS pheed that doesn't verify. BlogBomb is very picky and won't show results if the pheed doesn't verify.
Run your site's RSS URL here:
http://validator.w3.org/feed/