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#0, Proxy Guide (Formerly: Proxy Service - Finally)
Posted by Kurt on Jan-05-10 at 06:18 PM
LAST EDITED ON Sep-17-10 AT 07:52 PM (PST)
 
This thread is a good basic guide to using proxies for SEO and IM.

See Post #10 below for the guide.


I've tried a bunch of different proxy services, programs, etc, and finally found one I like:

http://hidemyass.com/vpn/

"HMA" is $11.52 a month, and you can subscribe using Papal, so you can cancel easily if you need it.

It's easy to use and let's ALL your net programs use different IP addresses, not just a browser. And just as important, it's easy to "turn off".

I haven't tried it with gmail yet, but should be good for most submission and profile creation type activities....


#1, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by russ1 on Jan-06-10 at 11:56 AM
In response to message #0
This looks good to me Kurt, I have a heck of a time using proxies, the free ones usually dont work for me and I have a subscription for a few proxies that I cant seem to get to work with anything and dont give much usage before they dont work without upgrading, I think I will give this a try, Thanks.

Russ


#2, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by blue_sky on Jan-08-10 at 04:06 AM
In response to message #1
I talked to a proxy provider yesterday and he told me chances are slim to get gmail accounts - obviously you need very special proxies...
but I guess its worth a try..

#3, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by Kurt on Jan-09-10 at 10:33 AM
In response to message #1
>This looks good to me Kurt, I have a heck of a time using
>proxies, the free ones usually dont work for me and I have a
>subscription for a few proxies that I cant seem to get to
>work with anything and dont give much usage before they dont
>work without upgrading, I think I will give this a try,
>Thanks.
>

Hey Russ,

I've had the same problem. One thing I really like about HMA is they use paypal, so if they stop working, it's easy to stop the subscription. The price is low enough that it isn't worth messing with free proxies.

BTW, I ran a proxy checker test using HMA and a proxy was NOT detected. Most of the stuff we use proxies for aren't that sophisticated, but it's good to know.

Here's the "proxy checker test":
http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/advanced-proxy-test



#4, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by russ1 on Jan-09-10 at 04:37 PM
In response to message #3
Yep Kurt, I just did the test also and it was showing no proxy.

#5, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by Kurt on Jan-09-10 at 05:13 PM
In response to message #4
>Yep Kurt, I just did the test also and it was showing no
>proxy.

Hey Russ,

Did you get HMA? If so, what do you think?


#6, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by russ1 on Jan-10-10 at 01:14 AM
In response to message #5
Yes I got it, Like you said for 11 dollars I am giving it a try, and so far so good, very easy to work with, thanks Kurt.

#7, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by blue_sky on Jan-10-10 at 08:54 AM
In response to message #6
Russ are you able to create gmail accounts??

#8, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by russ1 on Jan-10-10 at 01:10 PM
In response to message #7
LAST EDITED ON Jan-10-10 AT 01:25 PM (PST)
 
Havent tried yet, but I will right now.
Just tried it and it worked, but what a pain, now you have to verify the account through a mobile phone, if you dont have one you are S.O.L.

#9, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by blue_sky on Jan-10-10 at 11:41 PM
In response to message #8
through a mobile phone, if you dont have one you are S.O.L.

thats what I meant...


#10, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by Kurt on Sep-17-10 at 04:33 PM
In response to message #9

Kurt's Guide to Proxies


I'm not an expert with proxies, so take this info and add to it, or adapt it, as you learn more.

A proxy is simply a way to "borrow" an IP address other than the one given by your ISP to us while surfing the Net.

Normally you connect like this:
PC => ISP => Net

Using a Proxy:
PC => ISP => Proxy => Net

With most proxies, they're just an IP address, followed by a "port number, and in the case of a private/paid proxy a password/ID number may be added.

IP:
98.145.205.216

Port:
8085

How you'd enter a proxy in most programs:
98.145.205.216:8085 (note the : between IP and port)

And some service or programs may add a user name or number at the end:
98.145.205.216:8085:password


There's various kinds of proxies and ways to get and use proxies:
Free/public
Private
Browser based
Switching software


Free/public

These are posted on various sites and forums. A simple Google search for "free proxy list" + "fresh" will return tons of places to get free proxies.

Scrapebox has a great proxy scraper and tester. And you will need a program to check your proxies to make sure they work. Scrapebox does this as well, and there are other programs, google "free proxy checker" or "free proxy tester".

BAD
Slow
Don't last
Not all that private (this isn't a big deal as we're not doing anything terribly wrong like hacking or child exploitation)
Shared with others and can already be over-used and banned by many services.

Expect a high failure rate with public proxies.

Use when creating tons of stuff.

Private/paid

These are proxies you pay for that are dedicated to you alone. They are like having another ISP for each proxy IP.

They generally cost about $3 per month per proxy, with bulk discounts.

Good proxy services will let you test and switch proxies, as well as choose geographical locations.

However, even paid proxies dedicated to you NOW may have been used and abused by someone else before you, so you need to check these.

Many will use proxies for a month, then trade them in for others.

I tend to use mine more "gently". For example, I want to keep mine to protect different assets. For example, Twitter seems to allow about 10 accounts per IP. (I'd use about 6-8 Twitter accounts per proxy).

And each block of 6-8 Twitter accounts have a dedicated IP/proxy. This proxy is entered into software that auto-feeds tweets as well as friend requests/deletes.

When the software moves on to another block of Twitter accounts, it uses another IP address.

I can't recommend any services as it's really hit and miss even with the same service. If you read a good recommendation at a forum, chances are a lot of others jumped on the same services and used the IPs before you.

My biggest recommendation is to look for services that accept Paypal subscription so it's easy for you to cancel.

Browser/script based

Here's a cool exploit you won't find a lot of other places...There's a couple of free perl/php scripts that let you start your own private browsing service. I've posted one in this forum before.

You install the script on your site and people go to the script, enter a URL and start surfing the web, using the IP of the website as their "home IP". If your site is hosted in Florida, then it looks like you are surfing from Florida.

However, many people install the script to create their own private surfing site.

So if you know the footprint to these scripts, you can use sites that have them installed for proxies.

I've had mixed success using Ubot with these sites, but Ghost Control can be a valid option in many cases.

Try these browser based proxies:

"powered by Glype"
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=hts&oq=&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS274US274&q=%22Powered+by+glype%22

phproxy + "Include mini URL-form on every page"
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS274US274&q=phproxy+%2B+%22Include+mini+URL-form+on+every+page%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

"start browsing through this CGI-based proxy by entering a URL below"
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS274US274&q=%22start+browsing+through+this+CGI-based+proxy+by+entering+a+URL+below%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Surrogafier Proxy
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=hts&oq=&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS274US274&q=Surrogafier+Proxy

http://www.centurian.org/category/zelune/
(Click search button)

http://www.atproxy.net/category.php?id=50

Proxy Switching software


These are programs that run on your PC that automatically change your IP address...Names like:

Thor - free Uses free proxies. Popular but very slow and frustrating. (I think only changes browser IP?)

HideMyIP - paid. Ok. Easy. But only changes IP for the browser.

HideMyAss paid . Good. Easy. Changes IP for ALL programs.

Proxychanger - free Firefox plugin that changes IPs from a list you give it.

You can also google for "IP changer" "Proxy changer" "proxy switcher". Only changes IP.


A good thing about these programs is they can be scheduled to automatically change IPs, which can be a useful feature.

The downside is the IPs are shared with others and may be "used up". However, for things like querying Google many times for data-mining, I've never had a problem when using HideMyass.


#11, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by Kurt on Sep-17-10 at 04:41 PM
In response to message #10
LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-11 AT 07:00 AM (PST)
 
Fredola posted this on the IM Automation thread:
http://www.dombom.com/dcforum/DCForumID33/402.html

...And I've moved it here:


>As for proxies, I was thinking of going for the one
>recommended by scrapebox via the link at the bottom of their
>page -
>
>your private proxy dotcom
>
>$29.97 per month for 10 proxies which can be reset to new
>IPs monthly. Do you have any thoughts/recommendations
>please? I think somewhere else you recommended hidemyass
>dotcom, but I'm not sure if you changed your mind on that
>one?

I use both...Hidemyass for quick, easy stuff and dedicated/private for certain accounts.

It really depends on what you're doing...Use ScrapeBox for your free proxies and probably go with some good private proxies instead of Hidemyass if you have to choose.

While HideMyass is good, it only has about 50 proxies which we all share. You're probably better off with 10 of your own than sharing 50 with others.

But if you're just looking for a quick and easy way to change your IP for all programs, I still recommend HMA.

>If I set firefox up with the proxies and then use a web
>based email client, presumeably then I am going through the
>proxy?

This is my assumption.


#12, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by fredola on Sep-22-10 at 05:36 AM
In response to message #11
Hi Kurt,

I just wanted to add some extra thankyous for -

a) creating this resource/thread

b) answering my queries

I went for hidemyass today and it seems great. The support are responsive and helpful there too.

Cheers!


#13, RE: Proxy Service - Finally
Posted by Roxy97 on Mar-01-11 at 04:29 AM
In response to message #12
Can any one tell me if the hidemyass proxy service will be suitable for use with tools like Scrapebox.


It's just a thought but surely these IP's will get banned pretty quickly if tons of people get using them.


I read some where about setting up my own proxy network which seemed quite a good idea. Maybe several of us could build one together for our mutual benefit.


Any one know what would be involved in setting one up?