LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-07 AT 05:29 AM (PST)
 
We'll use this thread to post resouces for finding and using proxies.

Here's a FREE script that you install on your site called CGI Proxy:
http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/

Once you install it, you open it up in your web browser. Once you have the script open, you enter a URL into the script and whatever site you surf to will see the IP address of your web site/host, not your IPS service.

This is a great tool to use if you want to use a different IP address, but you want it to be the same IP everytime.

For example, you might use your home ISP IP address to post in the LA category. Then, for New York, you log into the CGI Proxy script installed on your site and use that IP for posting in New York.

If you have a few different web hosts, you should have different IPs for each one...Use CGI Proxy to give you more IPs.

Here's a list of proxies:
http://proxy.tc/
http://www.proxyfoxy.com/
http://tor.eff.org/
http://www.samair.ru/proxy/
http://www.stayinvisible.com/
http://www.publicproxyservers.com/
http://www.publicwebproxies.com/
http://www.proxiesranked.com/
http://www.freeproxylists.com/elite.html
http://www.freeproxylists.com/anonymous.html

Another option is to use multiple ISPs. For example, in the US NetZero, People PC and Juno are about $10 a month each, and usually have a discount on the first month or longer.

I have my cable service, AOL, NetZero and People PC. This gives me four more IPs I can use, as well as the associated email with each.

http://www.hide-my-ip.com/

Hide My IP is an inexpensive piece of software ($30) that let's you surf using different IP addresses.

It has a number of features such as automatcially changing IPs on a schedule, or letting you choose from 3 different country IPs: US, UK and Canada.

This can be useful for posting in Canadian cities, for example.

I haven't tried it myself, but TOR is used and recommended by many...And it's free:

Overview:
http://tor.eff.org/overview.html.en

Download:
http://tor.eff.org/download.html.en

Kurt,

I've downloaded and installed the Tor package, minus the Torbutton, since I'm on IE and not on Firefox.

I'm a bit confused. While it says "Tor is running," does that mean that I simply browse through IE as I normally would? This proxy stuff is totally new to me.

John

>Kurt,
>
>I've downloaded and installed the Tor package, minus the
>Torbutton, since I'm on IE and not on Firefox.
>
>I'm a bit confused. While it says "Tor is running," does
>that mean that I simply browse through IE as I normally
>would? This proxy stuff is totally new to me.
>
>John

HI John,

I don't have a clue about TOR, as I mentioned above, I never used it. It just have been recommended by many blackhats.

I always like to check my IP address, just to make sure. You can check here:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/whatsmyip.asp

I guess you'd want to check your IP with TOR on, then turn it off anc check your IP again...

LAST EDITED ON Aug-25-07 AT 04:23 PM (PST)
 
Interesting. It's the same IP with it on or off.

EDIT: Ok, I just figured out why Tor wasn't working. I hadn't setup the IE browser to use it. Instructions are in the Tor Documentation online. I just used the page link above to check the IP and now, it's completely different. Here is the browser setup: http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-web.html.en

I'll mount a new attack on CL in the morning and let ya know what develops.

John

Kurt,

CGI-Proxy seems nifty. It'll help me squeeze some more value out of my hosting. Here are two other options:

1. Findnot.com. You can get the basic service for about $10/month. They have over a dozen IPs you can switch between but I've found that only a couple are fast at any one time. Definitely don't waste your money on the high-speed Findnot service. The speed is barely faster than the cheaper option.

2. Reset your modem. I haven't tried this yet but I've heard that you can get a new IP if you reset your modem provided you don't have a static IP.

Rich

Kurt,

I just found this:

http://www.seotrafficsuite.com/software/pg/proxygenius.htm

Special note: This is a free program. Just click the "try out" button. The trial expiration should go out about a year. However, if you click the "buy now" button, you'll see a $97 price.

It scans for proxies and then checks their speed. You can also enter your own list of proxies and have it check the quality. Once you've found a good proxy, just click on the proxy and then click "Set Proxy" and then open up IE.

You can also set the program to loop through a list of proxies every x minutes. Or, just have your proxy list ready and switch manually by clicking the "Set Proxy" button for each CL profile you're using.

Rich

Rich,

I tried that one yesterday and wasn't impressed with it. And then, when I uninstalled it, my computer froze up for a while.

The TOR concept seems to be easily functional. Everytime you fire up your computer, you have a new IP. Also, during operation, you can click on it's icon and ask for "New Identity." It changes immediately. I would guess you could "cycle through" several without a problem. My only question with it is there's no way to check the geo-location of THAT IP. That's another aspect I need to look into, in ref to TOR.

John

Another step required for using TOR:

In your system tray, you'll find a little, what I call, a "green fused bomb." Right click on it and you'll see "New Identy." Click on it. This changes your IP immediately.

Crucial Step: Now, go to http://www.showmyip.com/torstatus/ and check your LOCATION for that IP. This is important as CL will only accept IPs from within the US for US listings. You may have to cycle your New Identity several times to arrive at a US IP.

Just noted this this morning.

John

John,

I haven't had any problems with ProxyGenius. You can search Google for proxy lists and then have the program weed out the bad ones. Then click to switch the proxies.

I've used Tor before but it's dead slow.

Rich

The software I'm beta testing "fronts" a proxy URL for you, without you actually being ON the proxy. More on that when I interface with CL and see what happens.

John
PS...Yes, I agree. TOR is a bit on the sloooow side, when it comes to loading a page.

John and All..

I wouldn't spend too much time messing with proxies...

CGI Proxy gives you your own IP address that you don't share with anyone:
http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/

A domain is $2-10 (although I don't like .info for this) and hosting is another $5-10 a month.

If you can't make enough on CL to pay $7 a month for your own IP, then CL probably isn't for you.

The script is free and easy to install...Not to mention, there's many additional SEO benefits to have some extra web hosting, such as getting more impact from cross-linking, etc.

LAST EDITED ON Aug-30-07 AT 06:40 AM (PST)
 
I just installed "CGI Proxy" on one of my domains, pointed it to "http://showip.net"; and it gave the IP number of the site it's sitting on. If this is the case, then one would necessarily have to have several sites to run the script on.

The software I'm currently betatesting sits on your desktop and changes your IP at the click of a button, always checking with showip.net verification that you're still in the US.

CLA should be ready for distribution shortly. We've only found a couple of bugs that should be ironed out soon.

John

>I just installed "CGI Proxy" on one of my domains, pointed
>it to "http://showip.net"; and it gave the IP number of the
>site it's sitting on. If this is the case, then one would
>necessarily have to have several sites to run the script on.

Yep. As I pointed out, you will need hosting for each IP. That's the bad. It can't just be a "site", like a reseller account, each domain must have a unique IP.

The good is that only YOU use the IP address, and you use the same IP every time. With proxy software, you use different IPs which rotate, meaning it is possible that eventually you'll use the same IP for different accounts.

And, multiple hosting accounts on different hosts/IPs also have added benefits, such as for SEO, another email address, etc.

Plus the time saved searching for a workable IP address.

Again, the question that needs to be answered is if having an added IP is making enough profit from CL.

If you pay for hosting upfront for 6 months, then it's about $5 a month. On month to month, it's more like $10-12. Is an extra CL account with its own static IP worth $5-10 a month or not?

Like I said, start with your ISP (if in the US), then put CGI Proxy on any and all IPs you have access to, THEN either get more hosting or try other proxy options.

For those on a tight budget and need to test results first, try a google for:
"cheap web hosting" + "free trial"

Try this and similar searches...You may be able to find something that works.

LAST EDITED ON Sep-01-07 AT 10:01 AM (PST)
 
Also,

If you search the net for lists of Proxy IPs, remember the following:

A. If you find "CoDeeN Network," disregard it. They're unuseable!
B. If your IP has a "port" in the listing, i.e.123.123.123.123:XXX, keep the port info attached to the IP.
C. Anything connected to "planetlab" also WON'T work.

John

So it seems that if you use a proxy service you should choose very wisely (it should be an USA proxy etc).

If you install a proxy script, you should be sure to have an USA hosting provider, right ?

Tasari

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Taz,

Been a while, dude. Good to see ya again.

Yes, word is that, to post to US cities, one has to have a US IP. So far, this has been the biggest problem I've encountered. For, I too, operate from a non-US IP and need to cover it.

Many proxies are "transparent," meaning they pass your info through them. Gotta watch out for those. Whatever you use, once in, point your browser FIRST at http://showip.net . Verify that you ARE seen as US-based. Seek either anonymous or elite class proxies. Or, use your US-based hosting servers.

John

>So it seems that if you use a proxy service you should
>choose very wisely (it should be an USA proxy etc).
>
>If you install a proxy script, you should be sure to have an
>USA hosting provider, right ?
>
>Tasari

Hey Taz...

That's correct, unless of course you want to post in a Canadian city, then you'd try to use a host located in Canada to give you an IP from that country.

Kurt,

That CGI-Proxy is a real gem. I just installed it a few times today. I can't wait to use it tomorrow.

Tip: You can have it auto-installed for free by going here:

http://www.xav.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/xav/install.cgi

Rich

>Kurt,
>
>That CGI-Proxy is a real gem. I just installed it a few
>times today. I can't wait to use it tomorrow.
>
>Tip: You can have it auto-installed for free by going here:
>
>http://www.xav.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/xav/install.cgi
>
>Rich

Hey Rich,

Thanks for the link, that should help some folks here getting it up and running.

And CGI-PROXY is really a great script. I did have to update my servers' PERL, but once you get it running, it's great.

Seems this problem (IPs) is solved. Now learn more and CL list

Tasari

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Hey,

To get CGI-Proxy to work with CL accounts, you'll need to have the SSL modules mentioned in the readme installed. Mine are installed but for some reason I can't get it to work properly when accessing secure pages.

Anyway, I was able to post from the same IP with 2 CL accounts. All of the ads posted.

Rich

>To get CGI-Proxy to work with CL accounts, you'll need to
>have the SSL modules mentioned in the readme installed.
>Mine are installed but for some reason I can't get it to
>work properly when accessing secure pages.
>
>Anyway, I was able to post from the same IP with 2 CL
>accounts. All of the ads posted.

Thanks Rich (and Everyone),

I'm getting the same results as you are...I have Kirill (my tech expert, programmer) looking at it to see if there's anything we can do...

If there's any hack or instructions to make it work, I'll pass it along.

Hey Rich,

Kirill got mine working. Maybe it's the version? I'm using an older version that Kirill mades some mods. Email me and I'll send you what I have and you can give it a try.

Hi Rich and All...

I asked Kirill if he did anything else and he said:

---

I have also had to set the script parameter
$OVERRIDE_SECURITY= 1 ;
Perhaps this is it.

---

So check and make sure you have set this security peramter correctly.

Let me know if this worked...

Hey Kurt,

I changed that parameter and it works now. Tell Kirill thanks!

Rich

LAST EDITED ON Sep-23-07 AT 06:18 AM (PST)
 
If I use a product like http://www.hide-my-ip.com would there still be a need to also use a product like CGI Proxy?

Jody

Jody,

Not sure but this is my take on your question:

HideMyIP would present you with whatever IP it came up with. Whereas, using a proxy script on one of your domains gives you the IP of the domain. It would seem that the use of an on-site proxy script would give you better control.

My .02 <wink>,

John

>If I use a product like http://www.hide-my-ip.com would
>there still be a need to also use a product like CGI Proxy?

Jody,

As John said, and I pointed out above, HideMYIp will give you a different IP each time. You will also share these IPs with others.

CGI Proxy will give you the same IP each time (per installation) and you will be the only one that uses it.

Kurt,
thanks for sharing this idea with CGI Proxy it works like a sharm

Karsten

Social Bookmarking isn't that easy to use with proxy

I know Windows Live + Facebook + Digg can't be done via proxy. Or does anyone else succeeded in this ?

Tasari

>Social Bookmarking isn't that easy to use with proxy
>
>I know Windows Live + Facebook + Digg can't be done via
>proxy. Or does anyone else succeeded in this ?

Taz,

I haven't tried those, but there are plenty others.

Get Bookmarking Demon (use the Bomber affiliate link in the buy/sell/wanted thread).

It takes a while to figure out, but it also has a proxy built in and lets you find Scuttle sites. Scuttle is a free SB script and most webmasters don't have top security. But it still gives links.

Just be sure to have a big network with decent content first.

If you have a lot of different resources, each with a good article, you can submit them all to SB services, giving you more links.

Don't forget to mix in some "sacrificial links" which are links to big, major sites that you can't compete against. This helps remove fingerprints and makes your SB submissions look even more legit.

"Scuttle is a free SB script and most webmasters don't have top security. But it still gives links.
"

Kurt I already suggested this - what about a Scuttle exchange? If every member would install this script on his hosting account we could exchange the URLs and therefore expand the (IP) network..
Let me know what do you think..

>"Scuttle is a free SB script and most webmasters don't have
>top security. But it still gives links.
>"
>
>Kurt I already suggested this - what about a Scuttle
>exchange? If every member would install this script on his
>hosting account we could exchange the URLs and therefore
>expand the (IP) network..
>Let me know what do you think..

Karsten...And Top Hat Bob suggested it even earlier...

It's a good idea, but....This really doesn't have anything to do proxies, so let's start a thread specific to this topic.

In addition, those with Bookmarking Demon could exchange some of the other Scuttle sites they find.

For those looking to use proxies on a regular basis I have found Proxy Firewall is excellent (you may need to turn it off when using Tulez).

It works with either free proxies both html and socks proxies and you can also use it with private proxies.

Any one who is serious about good quality proxies I find Packet Flip proxies are the best you'll find their link on the Proxy Firewall download page.

The good thing about proxy firewall is FREE so if you want it just download it at http://proxyfirewall.org

One other great thing is you can set it up so if you say use IE and Firefox one can work with proxies and the other without.

You can even use Proxy Firewall as a anti virus and anti attack system if used properly no one can trace you or even fidn your PC.

I have also found using Proxy Firewall works brilliantly with TOR although it takes a bit of effort to get set up first time.

If any one gets stuck I can try and help but it's fairly straight forward.

I don't know if I am posting this question on the right thread, but here goes.

How does one know the IP address of someone? Example when I came across one site it mentions my IP address is XXX

How do they do that?

Tom

You will find they are using a script to identify the ip of the vistor which is passed by your Internet Service Provider as you visit a web page.

To preserve anonimity people use proxies some times for blackhat stuff and otherwise to stay under the radar.

There are also proxy sites where you can surf under the radar such as

http://anonym.to

You can find a lot more out about proxies at http://proxyfirewall.org it's quite revealing how much people can find out about their vistors if they know where to look.

You can also get what they call a GEO script which identifies where a visitor has come from and shows them content accordingly.

I am not sure if this has been discussed but it can help when converting offers on web pages. I think you can buy or get free a script on places like Scriptlance.

Thank you for clearing this up for me. I sure appreciate it.

Tom