I have just read a report that describes the use of randomised links within a blog network to achieve some pretty good rsults.

Whilst reading this I was thinking how could I incorporate using random links within Kurts methods.

There is a widget for wordpress to rotate the blogroll links.

Blogbomb has a random function to create RSS feeds.

I would be interested in any of your thoughts on this or how you may be using it already.

My first idea was try to introduce this in parts of my network as I build, but not sure yet on how to incorporate.

Many thanks
Jason

I won't get into details of that report other than to say if you buy it, you don't need the upsell if you're a Bomber. (Sorry Dave)

Jason,

BlogBomb random can work for this, and is faster and easier...But, my Blackhole RSS strategy is perfect for this...

Blackhole RSS:
http://www.dombom.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2&forum=DCForumID42

Hi,
I dont understand what you mean by randomised links?

Do you mean that the link points to a certain page, while the anchor text is for a different. I mentioned this, because when I use the blackhole rss, this is what I get. The links point to one page, while the anchor text is for a different page.

Is this what you are calling random or is it something different?

bye,
faraz

Hi Faraz...

It's been a while.

Yeah, the blackhole randomizes links. I won't give away exactly why this is important, as Dave Kelly is selling this in a WSO.

But if you get his WSO, you can use your blackhole to do what he suggests and don't need to pay for his One Time Offer.

It's called "The MSN Code" and you can get it here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/24749-actual-search-engine-loophole-real-deal-see-video-amazed.html

If you can afford it, I'd suggest getting it and then use our strategies here...I haven't tested it yet, but respect Dave Kelly a lot...And if he's correct, if you have a good blackhole RSS, you may be able to do very well in MSN.

If the loophole works the way it is supposed to work why have not been discovered incidentally when using the blackhole RSS feeds?

It's enough to create and ping a bunch of "made up" blackhole RSS feeds or do we need to "anchor" them to properties that can syndicate RSS?

Do you think Kurt that using contextual links instead of hard coded ones will make the method more effective for MSN?

thanks,
Karl

>If the loophole works the way it is supposed to work why
>have not been discovered incidentally when using the
>blackhole RSS feeds?

This is a good question...Again, I haven't tried this for the purpose Dave suggests, and I'm recommending it based on my general experience with Dave.

Have you set up your network the same way Dave suggests?

>It's enough to create and ping a bunch of "made up"
>blackhole RSS feeds or do we need to "anchor" them to
>properties that can syndicate RSS?

The blackholes can be stored on any domain. They can then be syndicated to any other site that is RSS friendly.

I'd concertate on building a single, great blackhole, moreso than multiple lesser blackholes.

>Do you think Kurt that using contextual links instead of
>hard coded ones will make the method more effective for MSN?

Hard coded is the worng term here...Contextual vs. Clustered.

I'm guessing here...I don't think MSN is sophisticated enough to tell the difference, I could be wrong.

I would add a few contextual links, just for variety and the fact that it will help in google, even if the strategy is mainly for MSN.

Yes I have a pool of idle sites but I'm plannig to hit this hard with a fresh bunch.

My main concern is how to make the network more google friendly and capture some long tail along the way (I'll cloak).

That's why I wanted to use contextual links in the first place.

The fact is, the way Dave sets up his network is subomptimal, since linkubator blogs will randomly reciprocating. It may not be an issue for MSN (I'm not sure) but it's easily avoidable without compromising the link amplification process... which I guess is the real reason behind the original setup and not the indexing issues mentioned by Dave.

I'm not sure about the blackhole. Maybe submitting it to RSS aggregators as if there was no tomorrow would be the best route of action.

Backlinks and duplicate content in MSN.... Since there is PR to increase keyword authority in MSN I assume that being indexed is all we need to have the full worth of our backlinks. I assume there is no supplemental index that we need PR to get out of so duplicate content shouldn't be an issue. All we need is to get the page containing the backlink indexed. Does this sound ok to you? I'm asking this because I'm hesitating between using PLR, aggregating RSS feeds or cloaking on markov.

>The fact is, the way Dave sets up his network is
>subomptimal, since linkubator blogs will randomly
>reciprocating. It may not be an issue for MSN (I'm not sure)
>but it's easily avoidable without compromising the link
>amplification process... which I guess is the real reason
>behind the original setup and not the indexing issues
>mentioned by Dave.

It's not optimal for Google, but Dave says it is for MSN. I'll take his work on this until we learn better.

>I'm not sure about the blackhole. Maybe submitting it to RSS
>aggregators as if there was no tomorrow would be the best
>route of action.

Now, if you plan on using the blackhole mainly for RSS submission, then it would be better to use it on as many IPs as you can.

In addition to RSS submit and random linking, a really good blackhole can generate tons and tons of "unique content", then syndicated to tons of tin level blogs.

To use as content, think of it as an article spinner, but more poweful.

>Backlinks and duplicate content in MSN.... Since there is PR
>to increase keyword authority in MSN I assume that being
>indexed is all we need to have the full worth of our
>backlinks. I assume there is no supplemental index that we
>need PR to get out of so duplicate content shouldn't be an
>issue. All we need is to get the page containing the
>backlink indexed. Does this sound ok to you?

I agree.

Let me add, according to Dave Kelly, and he has a good point, the reason to use MSN is that it isn't nearly competitive as Google.

While it doesn't drive the traffic google does, it is also alot easier to get traffic for more competitive keywords.

For example, for Google you may SEO for a long tail keyword like:
custom big dog collars

Whereas for MSN:
dog collars

"Dog collars" in MSN may bring more traffic than ""custom big dog collars" does from Google, and may be esier to rank for. Again, this is just the general theory and everyone's results will vary.

I may add that the beauty of this strategy is that if you fail with one term you can just centrally update your link anchors and go for another.

Anyway, I looked up Dave's network and did not see any spectacular rankings or money sites with substantial traffic. I may just ended up in a separated network I don't know. But even if that's the case, still just a fraction of the sites seem to receive traffic.

> In addition to RSS submit and random linking,
> a really good blackhole can generate tons and tons of
> "unique content", then syndicated to tons of tin level blogs.

The reason I said we may need more blackholes (or at least more domains to host the same blackhole) is to have them change asynchronously across the network.

But at the end of the day this setup is just the same as Dave's original, except less control over the content so syndicating on RSS aggregators and social media with authority may be better strategy. Any thoughts on this?

thanks,
Karl

Hi Karl,

If it's control over your RSS pheeds you want, you can always use Scrubz.

Another possibility is the random function in BlogBomb. It doesn't "randomize" as much as the blackhole, but does mix and match different items.